Final Thoughts

Final Thoughts

Written by John Packard

I will be in my office all week (yea!) this week. This is probably the first time I have spent a full week behind my desk in the last couple of months. If you have any questions for me this is a good week to track me down and ask away….

I would like to take a moment to thank Ira Kreft, Mary Blizzard and all of the good people at the Bank of America Merrill Lynch offices in Chicago for allowing me to speak to a number of their clients this past week.

I also want to thank the Association of Steel Distributors for hosting Ray Culley and myself at their Chicago regional meeting. I am quite certain that we will see a number of the ASD membership at our Steel Summit Conference in Atlanta on September 1st and 2nd.

We have a new writer who will be splitting the duties of writing about hot rolled coil (HRC) futures, busheling (BUS) futures and iron ore trading. We want to welcome Spencer Johnson who is a risk management consultant in ferrous and base metals with FC Stone, LLC. If you have any questions you would like Andre Marshall of Crunch Risk, LLC or Spencer Johnson to tackle, please send them to:

Registration is open for our next Steel 101: Introduction to Steel Making & Market Fundamentals workshop which will be held in Davenport, Iowa and will include a tour of the SSAB mini-mill (EAF). Information is on our website or you are free to contact me in my office with any questions that you might have. Steel Market Update member companies receive special discounts on this (and all) workshop as well as our Steel Summit Conference. The dates on the Steel 101 workshop in Iowa are October 6-7, 2015.

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John Packard, Publisher

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I’ve had discussions with some of you lately about where and when sheet prices might bottom. Some of you say that hot-rolled (HR) coil prices won’t fall below $800 per short ton (st). Others tell me that bigger buyers aren’t interested unless they can get something that starts with a six. Obviously a lot depends on whether we're talking 50 tons or 50,000 tons. I've even gotten some guff about how the drop in US prices is happening only because we’re talking about it happening.

Final thoughts

We’ve all heard a lot about mill “discipline” following a wave of consolidation over the last few years. That discipline is often evident when prices are rising, less so when they are falling. I remember hearing earlier this year that mills weren’t going to let hot-rolled (HR) coil prices fall below $1,000 per short ton (st). Then not below $900/st. Now, some of you tell me that HR prices in the mid/high-$800s are the “1-800 price” – widely available to regular spot buyers. So what comes next, and will mills “hold the line” in the $800s?