Final Thoughts
Final Thoughts
Written by John Packard
November 18, 2015
A note to our Premium level members, we will have another supplemental issue out tomorrow which will contain our Apparent Excess/Deficit forecast for carbon flat rolled service centers in the United States. We also expect to have our Power Point presentation regarding this week’s flat rolled steel analysis (survey) online by early afternoon. We will most likely provide some insights into the Power Point in tomorrow’s supplemental issue.
I am being asked by almost every person I speak with on a daily basis if I believe we are at the bottom. Price wise, with hot rolled being offered to medium and smaller sized buyers at $19.00/cwt ($380 per ton) we are at the levels last seen during the height of the Great Recession. In the last issue of SMU I laid out some of the green shoots. Today I will mention some of my concerns:
– Spot iron ore pricing is dropping in China. Today’s rate was $45.1/dmt for 62% Fe fines. This is down about $10/dmt over the past few weeks. Iron ore is expected to continue to fall and could breach the $40/dmt level due to slowing conditions in China.
– The domestic steel mills lead times and order books are still not quite at the levels they need to be. This may be changing as I mentioned in the last issue of SMU. This is the one item buyers need to watch very carefully.
– Sentiment is down and the market psychology is negative – even though many customers expect 2016 to be a good year (better than 2015).
– Inventories are still too high at the service centers. I will address this issue tomorrow to our Premium customers when I provide how we did with our last forecast and what we expect going forward. We do anticipate inventories dropping and I do have a mild upward trend in our HR pricing forecast going into 2016.
You will notice that we are beginning to role out pieces of our Leadership Summit program. Registration is open for both the conference and the hotel. Both the conference and the hotel are limited so we recommend that you register as soon as possible. We have broken out details regarding the pricing for the conference in the article announcing Diane Thieldfolt pf The Learning Cafe as one of our presenters.
We will have more coming on the Leadership Summit in the coming days. If you have any questions please contact either Ray Culley (Ray.Culley@SteelMarketUpdate.com) or myself: John@SteelMarketUpdate.com (800) 432-3475.
As always your business is truly appreciated by all of us at Steel Market Update.
John Packard
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Cleveland-Cliffs is seeking $750 per short ton (st) for hot-rolled coil. That’s $20/st above where the steelmaker had been. It’s also $30/st above Nucor, which is at $720/st this week. We've seen prices increase incrementally this week. SMU's HR price, for example, stands at $690/st on average, up $5/st from last week. The questions now are whether a number well above $700/st will stick, whether other mills will follow Cliffs, and whether there is enough demand to support higher prices.
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We’re starting to see some impacts of the big trade case filed last week against imports of coated flat-rolled steel from 10 nations. Namely, we’ve heard that a range of traders have stopped offering material from Vietnam. An alleged dumping margin of nearly 160% will do that. Especially amid chatter of critical circumstances.
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The phrase “political football” has been tossed around a lot lately. (Pun probably intended.) For the humble journalists at SMU who thought the week following Steel Summit would prove a quiet one… the news cycle had other ideas