Final Thoughts

Final Thoughts

Written by John Packard

As if a pandemic wasn’t enough, now I have to muddle through a tropical storm (it was a hurricane but lost some of its punch overnight on Saturday). Fortunately, Florida residents consider tropical storms as nothing more than a nuisance. I have my fingers crossed that we don’t pick up a hurricane until after our conference is over….

Congratulations to Mark Bush who was named the CEO for JSW USA.

It is going to be a busy week with a new flat rolled and plate steel market trends survey beginning at 8 a.m. on Monday morning. Our service center data providers begin providing inventory and shipment data Monday as well. We should have a better feel for any shifts in momentum by the end of this week, although my gut feel is we are close to a bottom, if not at the bottom on hot rolled prices (with the low end being in the very low $400’s per ton).

John Packard Summit 18We have not yet named a speaker for this Wednesday’s SMU Community Chat Webinar. We should have one confirmed in the morning, and we will advise as soon as we do.

Registrations are breaking through 600 executives and counting for the 2020 SMU Virtual Steel Summit Conference. If you register by Aug. 5 you will be eligible to receive one of our welcome packages. Yes, we are sending a welcome box from SMU as well as a number of our gold and platinum sponsors. You can register by clicking here or going to

Here are some of the companies who registered for the 2020 SMU Virtual Steel Summit Conference late last week: Komatsu Mining Corp, Colakoglu Metalurji A.S., Wayne Brothers, Inc., Argus Media, UBS Securities*,  NB Handy, Flack Global Metals*, Stelco, Griffin Trade Group, Metal One America, Steel & Pipe Supply, Jade Metals Corp, Viking Materials Inc., High Steel Service, Apex Tool Group, EXLTUBE*, ArcelorMttal Dofasco* (those with an * means more than one person registered). You can join them by clicking here or going to

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Final thoughts

I’ve had discussions with some of you lately about where and when sheet prices might bottom. Some of you say that hot-rolled (HR) coil prices won’t fall below $800 per short ton (st). Others tell me that bigger buyers aren’t interested unless they can get something that starts with a six. Obviously a lot depends on whether we're talking 50 tons or 50,000 tons. I've even gotten some guff about how the drop in US prices is happening only because we’re talking about it happening.

Final thoughts

We’ve all heard a lot about mill “discipline” following a wave of consolidation over the last few years. That discipline is often evident when prices are rising, less so when they are falling. I remember hearing earlier this year that mills weren’t going to let hot-rolled (HR) coil prices fall below $1,000 per short ton (st). Then not below $900/st. Now, some of you tell me that HR prices in the mid/high-$800s are the “1-800 price” – widely available to regular spot buyers. So what comes next, and will mills “hold the line” in the $800s?